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06-15-26 panasonic
Savo, same here...no one should live under war atrocities, breaks my heart, my mother's family is from Persia, you won't find kinder and more welcoming people.
Same venezolanos, always a smile in their face...both share similar fate, ultra rich countries with 16 zeroes devaluations.
Media playing a destructive roll, to the point a porn actress is rooting for Ayatollahs, how crazy is that?
But when it comes to nukes in highly populated areas, numbers start to look very different. |
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06-15-26 savo
pana.. sorry... not my area of expertise... all I would say is that the same applies to any country with nuclear capability.
my interest is in peace and prosperity for all... |
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06-15-26 panasonic
Savo, seems to me one should decide what to believe based on facts:
1) IAEA report, 60% enriched uranium, for energy purposes? really?
2) Attack on Gulf States, fake?
3) "Iran possesses one of the largest and most advanced ballistic missile arsenals in the Middle East. Its long-range and intermediate-range missiles (IRBMs) can travel between 1,000 and 2,000+ kilometers, putting targets in Israel, U.S. regional bases, and parts of Eastern and Central Europe and Africa within striking distance", fake?
4) Are Iranian nuclear facilities Israeli propaganda?
Natanz: Located in Isfahan province, this is Iran's primary uranium enrichment facility. It houses massive underground centrifuge cascades and has been the site of multiple historic sabotage and airstrike incidents.
Fordow (Fordo): Located near Qom, this is Iran’s most heavily protected and fortified site, built deep inside a mountain.
Isfahan: The Nuclear Technology Center here handles uranium conversion, processing raw uranium ("yellowcake") into the chemical compounds used in centrifuges.
Arak: The site of a heavy-water nuclear reactor designed to produce plutonium as a byproduct.
5) Last but not least, didn't Iran say they will annihilate Israel?
You may root for a Gov. change in Israel, but which of facts (1) to (5) is Israeli "propaganda"? |
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06-15-26 panasonic
"Pleasing the rest of the world comes second"
Search no more. |
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06-15-26 savo
| cac... with due respect.. i do not believe a word that comes out of this israeli government and its propaganda. |
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06-15-26 CAC
Israelis usually take their neighbors at their word when they threaten to wipe them out. Living 5,000 or 10,000 kilometers away, we may lose sight of how serious that threat really is. But if Israelis ever forget, their neighbors are quick to remind them—just like they did on Oct 7. After all, staying alive comes first; pleasing the rest of the world comes second.
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06-15-26 savo
The Iran-U.S. Memorandum of Understanding: Full Details
Phase 1 | Upon announcement of the MoU (effective immediately):
– Upon announcement of the MoU, both sides declare an immediate, complete and permanent end to all hostilities in the region, including Lebanon.
– Upon announcement of the MoU, the United States declares the immediate and complete lifting of the U.S. naval blockade against Iran.
Phase 2 | After Signing of the MoU (30-day period):
– Upon signing the MoU, the United States confirms its commitment to non-interference in Iran’s domestic affairs and respect for the sovereignty of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
– Upon signing the MoU, the United States affirms that it will not increase the amount of troops or military assets present in the region, nor impose any new sanctions during the negotiations.
– Upon signing the MoU, Iran reaffirms its commitment to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and confirms that it will never produce, develop, or acquire a nuclear weapon.
– Upon signing the MoU, the United States declares that it will provide Iran with half of its frozen funds, amounting to a value of $12 Billion, to be made available in a non-reversible manner within 30 days, with a commitment to make the remaining half available during the subsequent 60 days.
– Upon signing the MoU, the United States will issue sanctions waivers for Iranian oil, gas, and petrochemical exports, effective immediately, with a commitment to extend these waivers permanently once a final agreement is reached.
– Upon signing the MoU, the U.S. will begin immediate consultations with Israel to present a short term timeframe for a full Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon, including points occupied following the 2024 Israel-Hezbollah agreement.
– Upon signing the MoU, Iran confirms it will reopen the Strait of Hormuz to commercial maritime traffic, according to certain specified arrangements determined by Iran, within 30 days.
Phase 3 | Negotiations on a Final Deal (60-day period + possible extension):
– The 60-day negotiating period will begin once all the terms of the MoU have been met in the previous 30 days.
– The 60-day negotiating period can be extended by mutual agreement of both parties.
– During these 60 days, the U.S. will make the remaining $12 Billion of Iran’s frozen assets available.
– During these 60 days, the U.S. will present plans for a reconstruction fund for Iran, amounting to a value of at least $300 Billion, funded partially by Gulf states.
– The U.S. and Iran will begin detailed discussions on a permanent solution to nuclear-related matters, including enrichment, the existing uranium stockpile, and the fate of the nuclear sites.
– The U.S. and Iran will begin detailed discussions regarding the lifting of all economic sanctions on Iran, including primary, secondary, U.S. and UN sanctions, as well as the withdrawal of all UN Security Council and IAEA Board of Governors resolutions against Iran.
– A monitoring mechanism will be established to supervise the implementation of a final agreement.
– The final agreement will be approved by a UN Security Council Resolution.
@Middle_East_Spectator |
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06-15-26 panasonic
| Savo, usually a good signal to switch strategies. |
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06-15-26 savo
on a more vernacular matter:
Zerohedge:
The option market has never been more bullish on chips, or more bearish on gold.
Act accordingly.
https://x.com/TaviCosta/status/2066391523697332566 |
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06-15-26 savo
actually wants to destroy us all
yet the ones destroying everybody around are NetanDracula and his gang
These guys are worse than the serbians and deserve the same jail...
I hope beautiful Israel is soon free of them. |
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06-15-26 carib
Cac: reasonable posture.
But one should add.. if someone is neither israeli nor american, his perspective is different, and that explains a lot.
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06-15-26 CAC
I like how this guy sees it
Haviv Rettig Gur
Everyone will have their take on the deal.
Mine is kinda what you'd expect.
1. Trump caved. The early-May naval attempt to break the closure of Hormuz -- Project Freedom -- could have worked. He didn't give it a chance.
2. He may nevertheless have done the right thing from an American perspective. On the larger chessboard, the one where America is curtailing Chinese lines of influence and supply on all fronts, he's gotten everything he needs. Iran's nuclear program is also set back dramatically. And worrying about gas prices come November is an extremely valid concern for an American president.
As I argued back in February, the US and Israel weren't fighting the same war. Roughly 80% of each side's war overlapped with the other's. But toward the end, their interests would diverge and America would bow out.
And so it was.
3. Israel remains in the region, Hezbollah remains ensconced in Lebanon and committed to murdering us all, Iran remains the same muqawama regime it always was, committed to mass-murder and mass-sacrifice of its own people. The decades-long war between the muqawama ideology and the Jews of Israel continues.
4. Israelis owe the United States a vast and abiding debt of gratitude for what it has done to Iran's missile and nuclear programs. That this finished on America's timetable rather than ours, that it was doing it for its own interests and not ours, these don't diminish the fact that we received from America more than we had a right to ask for.
5. And still, #3 remains true. We fight on. Because that regime is undeterrable, actually wants to destroy us all, and like the Nasserist ideology that once sent army after army at us to destroy us, will require a few more wars and perhaps another decade or two to defeat completely.
6. The new IRGC military dictatorship now in charge in Iran is built to survive catastrophe. But not to govern, reform or build anything of value.
Some commentators on the deal have suggested that the most damaging thing you could do to the Iranian regime at this point is send it back to its embittered people to try to govern the peace.
I think they might be onto something. It'd be a much safer and happier and more peaceful region if the regime falls from within and a new and better day dawns for the long-suffering people of Iran.
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06-15-26 panasonic
Carib, Israel political changes will follow.
The immediate problem at hand was to keep the balance of power in the region.
Until see real results on the enriched uranium by IAEA, me won't count chickens, no "thanks" notes...to me this accord is too fragile, unless has the full support of China.
Yes, as wrote several weeks ago, I'm ultra pessimistic on our kids' future under Chinese global supply chain control, seems inevitable. |
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06-15-26 carib
The key takeout, IMHO, is that in the trumpian world there are no allies, but only enemies and servants.
China might perhaps offer a more palatable alternative, in case the US stays in the present mood long term? |
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06-15-26 carib
Panas: IMHO Trump deserves to be thanked.. if Iran ends up without nukes, and Bibi ends up in early retirement.
But, if Iran comes out even more convinced they need nukes, and Israel ends up worse that it started.. no thanks deserved.
On Veny, Trumps deserves to be thanked by creditors.. if we get a decent bonds restructuring. Thanks by venezolanos, if their country turns back into freedom and prosperity. |
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06-15-26 victor
savo, he seems to express your point of view.
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Yair Golan
Former Deputy Chief of Staff, Chairman of the Democrats, the broad governing alternative of the liberal-democratic camp in Israel. We are determined to restore security and hope.
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Yair Golan - יאיר גולן
@YairGolan1
A tough morning for Israel.
This morning, Israeli citizens are waking up to an agreement between the United States and Iran made over Israel's head.
In one signature stroke, immense military achievements secured with the courage of our pilots and the blood of our fighters have been erased, while Netanyahu stood on the sidelines—weak, ill, isolated, and powerless.
Trump signs an agreement that funnels billions to the Ayatollahs' regime, leaves the nuclear infrastructure intact, preserves the ballistic threat as is, and throws a lifeline to the murderous regime in Tehran.
This is the culmination of long years of failure. Netanyahu is the man who, for years, sold the public a false image of "Mr. Security," and in reality became the father of Israel's greatest strategic failure in its history. The man who built the notion of "Hamas is an asset," who enabled the flow of Qatari money, who abandoned the diplomatic arena, who dismantled Israel's alliances, and left it isolated at the moment of truth.
Netanyahu is good for Hamas.
Netanyahu is good for Iran.
Netanyahu is good for Hezbollah.
Netanyahu is not good for Israel.
The one who promised "total victory" ends his tenure with Israel's enemies stronger, Israel weaker, and the deterrence built with the blood of our fighters eroding before our very eyes.
Replacing him is not just a political necessity—it is an existential security imperative. |
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06-15-26 spal
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06-15-26 spal
Added MOS
Will bounce on Sulphur price ... which may be reduced as Hormuz opens |
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06-15-26 panasonic
| SOXL calls back from ashes :-) |
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06-15-26 panasonic
Once the enriched uranium controlled, IAEA back inside Iran, the balance of power in the region will be restored (in'shallah).
Nukes in hand of a military power built by China in Middle East was a game changer, we may like or hate DT, he had the balls to go in and stop it, as Vance would ask "Not even thanks?", timeframe is critical bcz of mid-terms, and certainly not achievable under "auto-pens".
Fwiw, pressure on China was exercised by Gulf States, EU absent as usual.
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06-15-26 carib
Victor: I think the agreement was drafted essentially to provide BOTH sides with arguments to declare victory.
Concerning nukes, time only will tell if progress will be made or not.
If Hormuz will be fully re-opened. that will be the only practical good result.
I am sorry for the iranian people, who will remain under a disgusting regime.
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